Information about possible
parentage of Catherine L. Ross Yancey
- wife of Robert Jennings Yancey -
who were married in 1829 in Wythe Co., Virginia
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:19 PM
To: Yancey, Dennis J
Subject: Re: Ross Genealogy
I intended to write a book about the Ross Family, but other things have gotten in the way (such as a book about sailboats, published the year we first corresponded, 2011).
Proof about Catherine Ross is not first class, but in my view, adequate. I am copying some relevant notes from my records:
(1) From my notes for William and Rachel (Fugate) Ross:
The following document was obtained and transcribed by Steve Henkel (StevePipit@AOL.com) from the original handwritten court document. A photocopy of the original was obtained from the U.S. National Archives in Washington DC. The document, recorded in the Probate Court of Monroe County, IN, is divided into four parts:
(1) the declaration of William Ross's wife, Rachel Ross, on 13 Nov 1843;
(2) declaration of Randolph Ross, son, on 13 Nov 1843;
(3) declaration of Samuel Sloan, son-in-law, on 13 Nov 1843;
(4) declaration of Ann R. Dudley, daughter, on 14 Feb 1853 (almost ten years after the other declarations).
The complete text follows.
(Written on File Cover): Service: N.C. Ross, William, Rachel Number R.9024
State of Indiana, Monroe County, S.S. Declaration. In order to obtain the benefit of the acts of Congress of the 7th July 1838 and of March 3rd 1843, on this 13th day of November 1843, personally appeared before me Aquilla Rogers Judge of the probate Court of the County & State aforementioned -- Rachel Ross, a resident of the said County of Monroe, State of Indiana aged Eighty years (past) March ------ [blank] 1843, who being first duly sworn according to law doth on her oath make the following declaration in order to obtain the benefits of the provisions made by the acts of Congress passed July 7th 1838 and March 3rd 1843 granting pensions to widows of persons who served during the Revolutionary War. That she is the widow of William Ross who was a soldier in the Revolutionary War the space of --------- ------ [blank] as she believes a part of which time he served as (she believes) in the following capacity viz. as a private, as an orderly sergeant, and as an ensign but what length of time he served in each or either of said capacities she does not know. She believes he entered the service early in the war but cannot say under how many engagements he served, believes part of the time served was in the year 1778 and the year 1779. She does not recollect any of the names of the commanding officers nor the names of any of the staff officers under whom he served, nor does she recollect under what captains nor in what regiments he served. She believes it probable that he was under General Ash at one time. She cannot say whether he was a volunteer or was draughted or an enlisted soldier or a substitute but thinks he was at one time of his service in the militia by draught and was placed as a guard to guard lead mines or powder mills or an armory and ammunition for the army. She does not know when he left the army at any time. She declares William Ross her dec'd husband died August the 30th day 1825 in Wythe County, Virginia -- That the declarer and said Wm Ross dec'd was married in Montgomery County Virginia by one William Marshall on the 17th day of April 1780. That they had the following named children Kissia, Reuben, Randolph, Mary, Charity, William, Rachel, Clarissa, Elizabeth, Ann, Uphemia, Cenia, and Catharine none of which was under sixteen years of age at the time of the death of said William Ross. That he resided in Guilford County North Carolina when he entered the service -- She recollects of hearing him speak of being at Bison Creek, Pedee, and Savannah but whether he was in battles at those places she cannot say. And that she has no documentary evidence in support of her claim nor does not know where any could be obtained in support of her claim here presented. That she never before applyed for a pension although requested to do so long ago by her friends -- She further declares she was married to the said William Ross on the 17th day of April in the year 1780. That her aforesaid husband William Ross died on the 30th day of August 1825 as before noted, that she was not married to him prior to his leaving the service but the marriage took place previous to the first day of 1794 at the time above stated. She respectfully refers to the records if any in the war department relating to General Ash's army and the records of the troops from Guilford County North Carolina in the years of 1778 and 1779 and before and that she saw at repeated times an army discharge in favor of said William Ross's services but does not recollect for what length of time nor by whom given nor does she recollect or know what has become of s'd discharge. Rachel Ross, her mark and seal
Sworn to and subscribed in open court the day and year before named. Aquilla Rogers (seal) Judge of the Probate Court of Monroe County Indiana.
State of Indiana, Monroe County, S.S. On this ---- [blank] day of November 1843, personally appeared be ------ [blank] Randolph Ross of the County and state aforesaid, aged ---- [blank] years past who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath depose and sayeth that he is the son of the late William Ross mentioned in the foregoing declaration by his mother Rachel Ross. That he was born as advised by his father and mother the 8th of Nov. [November) 1784. That from his earliest recollection he allways understood from his father that he was a soldier of the Revolutionary War and that the latter part of his services he acted as Ensign but cannot say for what space of time. That his service amounted to three years and upwards that it is his impression from his father's expressions he served three years and nine months. That his residence was as understood from his father the said William Ross at the time of his entering the service in Guilford County North Carolina and the declarer thinks he entered the army early and cannot say under how many engagements he served. He always understood by his father and mother that they were married in Montgomery County Virginia by the Reverend William Marshall on the 17th day of April 1780. That his mother's name before the intermarriage was Rachel Fugate. That the names set forth in (his mother's) Rachel Ross's foregoing declaration on the number of her children is correct ten of which is now living. He does not recollect under what officers his father served nor does he recollect the names of any of the Staff officers nor companies nor Regiments in which he served and believes it very likely the said William Ross Served in both the Regular and Militia service That the said Randolph Ross well recollects the uniform friendship existing between Col. Robert Sayre and John T. Sayers and his Father as old Revolutionary Soldiers the first a Captain in the Service the latter a Lieutenant that they may have served together And that the foregoing declaration of Rachel Ross is true and correct to the best of his recollection and is entitled to credit.
[Same page, but space]
State of Indiana, Monroe County, S.S. On this 13th day of November 1843, personally appeared in open court being an account of record for the probate court of said county and state aforesaid Samuel Sloan resident in said county aged fifty three years past who being first duly sworn according to law doth on his oath make the following declaration -- That he knew Rachel Ross who has sworn to and subscribed the foregoing declaration and her husband William Ross deceased ------ [blotted] years before the death of said William Ross that she --- [was? blotted] the identical Rachel Ross known by him as the wife of said William Ross dec'd during his William Ross's lifetime. That he the declarer intermarried with Clarissa Ross daughter of said Rachel and William Ross that he inherited a part of said William Ross dec'd estate by virtue of this marriage. From the repeated account of William Ross of his services as a soldier in the Revolutionary War he has no doubts of his having been a soldier and that he has heard him say he ------ [was? blotted] an officer being Ensign or Sergeant and that he the declarer is satisfied s'd. Ross served in the Revolutionary War but how long and at what period or under what officers he cannot say.
Samuel Sloan (seal)
Testified [?] and sworn to in open court the day and year above written. Aquilla Rogers (seal)
Judge of the Probate Court of Monroe County Indiana.
State of Indiana, Monroe County, S.S. Be it known that on this 14th day of February 1853, before the subscriber's Justice of the Peace in and for the County and state aforesaid, personally appeared Ann R. Dudley, wife of Charles Dudley of the said county, and after being duly sworn made oath that she is one of the lawful heirs of Rachel Ross deceased widow of William Ross declaimant's father who was a soldier in the War of the Revolution. That her mother Rachel Ross above named made application in her lifetime for the benefit of this Pension Act of ------------- [blank] . That she is directly interested as a claimant in said pension and makes this affadavit to be filed with such additional evidences as my [?] agent or agents may use in prosecuting said claim countermanding and revoking all powers of attorney and authority heretofore given. I hereby constitute and appoint George H. Monserrat of Louisville Kentucky my [?] true and lawful attorney to prosecute the claim of Rachel Ross deceased widow of William Ross deceased Revolutionary Soldier for any amount of Revolutionary Pension that may be due and I hereby authorize my said attorney to examine all papers or documents in relation to said claim on file in the department and offices of the United States at Washington City D.C. or elsewhere, and to file additional evidence to receive for any exclusive benefit the certificate which may be issued for said claim which certificate I wish made payable at the Madison Indiana Agency and to be forwarded to George W. Hardin of Bloomington Monroe County Indiana and my s'd. attorney is by these presents authorized to do all things that I might or could do were I personally present. Hereby certifying and confirming all that any said attorney shall lawfully do in the premises agreeable to these presents. In witness whereof I hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year first above written.
Ann R. Dudley (seal) signed, sealed, and delivered in the presence of
William Ambearge [?] William A. Kenshaw
Sworn to and subscribed and acknowledged before me the day and year above written. I hereby certify that I believe the said Ann R. Dudley to be directly interested in the said claim as set forth and that she is the identical person therein mentioned. (signed) William G. Roschley (seal), Justice of the Peace.
(2) Notes from my records on Catherine Ross:
Catherine's husband Robert Jennings Yancey's data are from the internet site,
the Yancey Family Genealogical Database
...which also gives a list of their children, including some places of birth.
Catherine's birthdate in the census is given as 1812/1813 (i.e. age 37 vs. her husband's age of 45). If the census age was correct, Catherine would have been 12 years old when her father died in 1825, and her mother would have been age 50 at Catherine's birth. Since her mother's deposition given in 1843 (see mother's notes for details) names all her children and says none of them "was under 16 years of age at the time of the death" of their father, we think the census information is inaccurate.
According to Mary Spainhour's notes, Catherine Ross had Thomas Graham, her brother in law (husband of sister Euphemia), named her guardian after the death of her father in 1825. Thus in 1825 she was probably under 18, or born after 1807, which dates fit with her marriage in 1829. (Exact date of marriage is per marriage records, "Virginia Historic Marriage Register - Wythe Co. 1790-1850" at Lynchburg, Jones Library. So is middle initial for spouse.) Bond date was 17 Oct 1829; minister return was 11 Jan 1830. She was also "over 16" according to mother's pension application (see mother's notes). Her birthdate is therefore 1807/1809.
The pair were married by Rev. L.S. Marshall (per the Lynchberg Virginian for Monday, Nov 2, 1829, page 3, col 5): "Robert J. Yancey, of Botetourt, to Catherine L. Ross of Wythe." Bond on 17 Oct 1829; minister's return on 11 Jan 1830. Note: The same record at the County Clerk's office says the marriage was performed by L.L. Marshall. It is interesting (but otherwise mostly irrelevant) that L L Marshall (son of William?) performed marriage of Catherine, and (father?) William performed marriage of Catherine's mother, Rachel.